Duner Central  

Go Back   Duner Central > The Sand Pit > DC Contests > Duner of the Month Winners

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-08-2010, 11:25 PM   #11 (permalink)
DC Member
aviomech's Avatar
Activity Longevity
1/20 13/20
Today Posts
sssssss47
DC Cash: 187,006
Gallery 0
Default

Congrats!!!!! I have had the opportunity to ride both of them, and they are very nice rides!!!
aviomech is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2010, 06:38 PM   #12 (permalink)
One Time At Sand Camp...
QuickSand's Avatar
Activity Longevity
4/20 20/20
Today Posts
sssss4308
Location: Sunny So Cal
DC Cash: 7,562,557
Gallery 426
Default

Just beautiful! I only see these on the net, never ran into one at the dunes.

How about a little history on these builds Mr Senator?
__________________
Wildcard Racing

QuickSand is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2010, 11:33 PM   #13 (permalink)
Moderator
Senator's Avatar
Activity Longevity
11/20 17/20
Today Posts
sssss1749
Location: Oregon
DC Cash: 72,430,079
Gallery 9
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by QuickSand View Post
Just beautiful! I only see these on the net, never ran into one at the dunes.

How about a little history on these builds Mr Senator?
Well, the idea was to have a clean example of both years the T4 was in production,1987 and 1988, that look relatively close to factory while maintaining personality. The result is what you see in the pictures and lists on the first page. The first thing I did after buying each one was drop them off at ILR Performance to be rebuilt and tuned. After intial build and tune, the top ends get pulled annually to clean powervalves, check tolerances, etc. The cases split about every three years for a look at the crank, change all bearings/seals, check shift forks, etc. Over the years they have seen different sets of plastic, some of which are in storage "just in case" since plastic is the holy grail in Tecate world, especially OEM.
Senator is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2010, 11:50 PM   #14 (permalink)
One Time At Sand Camp...
QuickSand's Avatar
Activity Longevity
4/20 20/20
Today Posts
sssss4308
Location: Sunny So Cal
DC Cash: 7,562,557
Gallery 426
Default

Great behind the scenes info! Always love to read about classic builds.
With all the ride time you put it do you notice an wear on the motor, tolerances always within spec?
Do you really have problems gumming up the powervalve?

The expansion chamber wind chime in the garage lol, are they all for your T4's?
__________________
Wildcard Racing

QuickSand is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2010, 09:01 AM   #15 (permalink)
Moderator
Senator's Avatar
Activity Longevity
11/20 17/20
Today Posts
sssss1749
Location: Oregon
DC Cash: 72,430,079
Gallery 9
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by QuickSand View Post
Great behind the scenes info! Always love to read about classic builds.
With all the ride time you put it do you notice an wear on the motor, tolerances always within spec?
Do you really have problems gumming up the powervalve?

The expansion chamber wind chime in the garage lol, are they all for your T4's?
Thanks Quick. This Spring, when we pulled the top end on our 87, the rings were out of spec. That was the excuse to put on the complete new top end we end. Those rings have been doing their job since they were installed in the Fall of 06. Every year, they spec fine until this year, easily over 400 hours.

The collar on the output shaft is technically out of spec on both bikes and all of our spare T4 motors as well. Over time, the rubber O-ring that seals it has worn a slight groove in it, not unlike what happens where expansion chambers meet cylinders. In all the T4 motors I've had, and all the rest I've seen, I have yet to find one in perfect condition. It's not a problem but if the calipers hit the right spot, you'll find it to be outside Kawasaki's recommeded wear range and replacement would be advised.

At one point I thought the shift forks may be out of spec when Mrs Senator reported that she was having a hard time downshifting from 4th to 3rd on steep, high rev inclines. I took it out into the dunes and discovered it didn't want to accept 3rd and get back on it as quickly as it should so we split the cases and had a look. It had been 2-3 years since bottom end inspection/new bearings and seals so it was time to get in there anyway. Shift forks were fine, as was everything else, so we compared them with the shift forks of known quality from one of the parts motors on the shelf and they were identical. Sowe replaced all the bearings and seals and buttoned it back up as it was. A friend of ours suggested that the heavy weight gear oil we were running may be the culprit causing the quick-shift problems. On his recommendation, we filled the engine with standard 10-30 and guess what...all better.

We used to have problems gumming up powervalves when we were running Maxima 927, a castor based oil. We were literally going through powervalves on a monthly basis there for a while. I switched back to Maxima Super M and haven't broke a powervalve since.

Yes, the expansion chamber wind chime is all T4 pipes. All the others are much less rare and, as such, were not invited to the party.
Senator is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2010, 09:50 PM   #16 (permalink)
Moderator
SandPsycho's Avatar
Activity Longevity
0/20 20/20
Today Posts
sssss2472
Location: 213/909
DC Cash: 3,746,462
Gallery 21
Default

Congrats Sen, very nice machines!
SandPsycho is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2010, 02:12 PM   #17 (permalink)
DC Major
txbanshee513's Avatar
Activity Longevity
1/20 13/20
Today Posts
ssssss462
Location: Houston TX
DC Cash: 5,552,394
Gallery 0
Default

rock on!!
__________________
txbanshee513 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:21 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0
vBCredits v1.4 Copyright ©2007 - 2008, PixelFX Studios
Copyright ©2010 Duner Central